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hello it's key from IELTS speaking

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success and today I'm speaking to an

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amazing lady Vicki holla'd she's a

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published author a teacher and a

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youtuber today she is the candidate for

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the IELTS speaking test I will be the

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examiner do you want to learn some

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natural English do you want to see how

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she does then start watching

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hi

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hello to you how are you I'm very well

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thank you I'm great and it's fantastic

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to see you here thank you so much for

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coming to join us I'm delighted to be

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here it's gonna be interesting it is

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indeed today Viki you're going to be

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doing the IELTS test as a candidate how

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do you feel a little bit nervous but

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mostly curious because normally I'm the

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one asking the questions so it's going

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to be very interesting to see what it's

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like to be on the other side of it

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absolutely yes interesting for me as

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well as an examiner so before we begin

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the test let's talk a little bit about

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you tell tell you know me and the people

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watching a little a bit about you and

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what you do okay

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I'm an English teacher and I'm a writer

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as well so I've written lots of books

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textbooks about English for people like

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Oxford University Press and Pearson and

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I'm also these days a youtuber so I make

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videos with my husband J and they're

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called simple English videos on YouTube

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and we look at any sorts of different

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features they've their videos for

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English lands fantastic and then they

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are great videos I've seen a lot of them

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I like the way you and J work together

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on those well he's American and I'm

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British so there's a bit of banter I

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write both accents going on as well

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excellent well listen and Viki let's

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without further ado let's jump into the

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test are you ready yes okay so I'll do

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it as a normal alt test so it has a

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certain level of formality about it and

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I'll get my clock as well because I do

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need my watch right so this is the IELTS

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speaking test taking place online today

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and the candidate here is Vicki and the

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examiner is Keith O'Hare hello can you

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tell me your full name please

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Victoria Hollett

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and what shall I call you Vicky Vicky

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okay

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so Vicky I've seen your ID card in this

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first part of the test I'm going to ask

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you some questions about yourself let's

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talk first of all about your hometown

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tell me about the town where you live

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okay well these days I live in

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Philadelphia in the US which is I think

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about the fifth or sixth largest city in

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America and it is a very big city and we

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live bang in the middle of it in little

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Terrace house surrounded by skyscrapers

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all right and is it a good place for

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children and there are some children

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growing up here now a lot of families

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used to move out of the city in the

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1970s and 80s when it was rather a

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dangerous place but these days a lot of

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families have been moving back so we've

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got lots of kids on our streets we know

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now what do tourists like to do where in

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your hometown we're a big Art Centre we

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have the Philadelphia Museum of Art and

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the Barnes Museum some very famous

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artworks there and we have the rookie

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statue of course because rocky was

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filmed here and so people like to run up

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the steps of the art museum like rocky

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did in the film we have lots of well I'm

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going to move on now and talk about

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sleep how many hours do you sleep every

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day this is a really strange question

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for me because my sleep is very erratic

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sometimes I'll only sleep say four hours

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or sometimes it will be six hours or

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sometimes it will be ten and do you

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think it's good to have a nap during the

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day sometimes I can't help it right

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and did you sleep more in the past than

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you do now I think I sleep about the

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same amount as I did before it hasn't

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changed much

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my husband says I have no Canadian

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rhythm right now let's move on and talk

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about maths when did you start to learn

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maths oh I learnt maths at school when I

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was a kid and I always loved math

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essentially it was a really nice a

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really enjoyable subject for me and at

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one point I was thinking of studying

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it's at university but I wasn't so keen

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on all the I wasn't so keen on studying

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other Sciences like physics in chemistry

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so it never happened is maths important

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Wow yes I mean even from simple

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arithmetic when you go around the

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supermarket you need to be able to add

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up and check your bill

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I need arithmetic to do my taxes every

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year and but also I think some of the

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larger concepts that maths are quite

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interesting as well and what is a good

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way to learn maths I think a good

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teacher is essential and I think I

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enjoyed math so much because I had

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inspiring teachers who made it fun and

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interest all right okay so now Viki I'm

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going to give you a topic and I'd like

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you to talk about it for one to two

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minutes you have one minute to prepare

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and you can take some notes if you wish

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do you understand

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I do and I'm definitely going to make

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take some notes students who take notes

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do better they do don't they good advice

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I can tell you're a good teacher

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so your topic and I will share this with

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you on the screen so your topic is

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describe piece of information that you

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think is not correct okay so now

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remember you've got one to two minutes

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and to talk about this so don't worry if

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I stop you I'll tell you when the time

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is up can you start talking now please

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okay I've often heard it said that

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Americans are more direct and British

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people and we're if I heard or read this

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well I've heard people say it it's sort

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of common folklore that British people

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are very very polite and Americans are

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much more direct and I don't think it's

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true having lived in America for a few

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years and being British myself I think

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that there are the same very similar

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standards of politeness that go on in

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both cultures but the standard the way

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of being polite is slightly different so

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what will happen in the UK is that we

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will be worried about disturbing people

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or interfering with them or getting in

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their way

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whereas what will happen in the u.s. is

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that people will be more concerned about

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being friendly and open and warm and

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these things get confused in people's

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minds so people will go to the US and

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say why are people being so warm and

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friendly and people will go to the UK

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and saying and think why are people

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standoffish and leaving me alone and not

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welcoming me and what it's really about

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is that it's just two different sides of

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politeness that are going on and so I

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think the idea that Americans are more

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direct is further not quite the right

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way of putting it

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putting it because there are lots of

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things that Americans do that it quite

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indirect like us so for example if I say

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if you want me to pick my coat up off

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your because great I'm gonna have to

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stop you there Vicki thank you very much

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good so we've been talking about a piece

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of information that you think is not

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correct I'd like to go on now and ask

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you a few more questions related to that

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so let's talk first of all about

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information do you believe everything

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that you read certainly not you can't do

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that these days I think with the

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internet there's so much false

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worse okay how can we identify reliable

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sources of information it's really

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important to try and work out where the

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information came from these days and

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tracking it down can sometimes be

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difficult sometimes it can be obvious

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when you look at it and read it it just

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doesn't ring true or there are errors

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that you know or things that are being

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overstated exaggeration is often a clue

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if things are exaggerated rather than

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factual that's an indication that this

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piece of information might not be direct

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correct so um the other thing is there

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are some organizations now that do fact

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check a lot of the new

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that we receive and they're worth

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looking at um there's a there's a a

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university in the south I think that

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does some wonderful fact checks of news

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organizations and also politicians of

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course to see how accurate they be and

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they're worth looking at

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there are also wonderful websites likes

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notes which you can go to if you've

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heard and sometimes if there's an

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internet meme or internet meme or story

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and you can go to Snopes and find

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fact-checking of that okay so how has

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the way that we access information

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changed in recent years I think before

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new sources were credible unbelievable

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generally speaking for most people it's

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rather different now because there has

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been an attack on media by a lot of

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politicians claiming that they're

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producing fake news it's it may be

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attractive for people to believe

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conspiracy theories and more of them

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spreading so that's another issue that

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you have larger quantities of fake news

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going around and also a lot of the

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places where people are getting use now

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are not regulated in the way that

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newspapers and media organizations have

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been regulated in the past so let's talk

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about Jobson information in which kind

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of jobs that people need to give

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information journalists and teachers all

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need to give information but I think

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it's true for most people if I were in

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any job it would be strange if I didn't

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have to give information to help my

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fellow workers I mean few people work on

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their own these days you need to get

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along with the people you're working

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and if you can't give information

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clearly on correctly it's going to be a

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problem isn't it and do you think the

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ability to find information will be an

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important skill in the future I think it

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already is an important skill the

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ability to show that you can access and

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find and and also oh I've forgotten the

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word I was going to use generate

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different pieces of information curation

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has become a skill that wasn't so

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necessary in the past but for example if

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you can gather together different bits

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of information and make them easily

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accessible when you need them because a

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lot of the time people are going to put

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information at the moment looking for

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information at the point that they need

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it now

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we just want to go get the information

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we need and leave it I mean look at the

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success of YouTube videos like this we

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tasks now like how to screw wall how to

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put a screw in a war or how to learn

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to the end of the test thank you very

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much Viki brilliant well done Viki that

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was great so after your IELTS test how

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do you feel a little nervous I wonder

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what score I'm going to get I was trying

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to I was thinking to myself you should

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get a second or third conditional in if

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you can because then it will impress the

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examiners but it was actually very hard

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to do I know it's not exactly not for my

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very impressive but they're hard to fit

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in when you're thinking on the top of

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your head right yes it was hard to think

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of things to say actually and I I'm

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because it's good to put yourself in

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students often say it's hard to find

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ideas and when you're giving a class you

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can give lots of ideas but when you're

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on the spot it's it's hard isn't it to

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think of things that's right and

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wouldn't be appropriate

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you know how political should I get I

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was thinking and thinking I don't run

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exactly Trump was coming demand but I

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thought it's great I mean I love the

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language I was listening as an examiner

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to the language as well the things you

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came out with some great collocations

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there were idiomatic expressions you

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know like slap bang in the center of

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Philadelphia oh yes well I was really

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wasn't that interesting because of

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course I wasn't listening to myself

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speaking so I was more conscious about

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what I was producing but I wasn't

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listening to what I was actually

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producing but it was great and I'll do a

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kind of a full review somewhere below

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for people to look at the the natural

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language that you used so I guess as we

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wrap up here and Vicki I mean when you

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mentioned at the start the videos that

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you do the work that you do if people

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want to find out more where can they

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find you they can go to look up simple

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English videos and we have a website

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where you can see all our videos and

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they're nicely arranged and we also have

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a web we also have a YouTube channel

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so simple English videos on YouTube and

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you'll find me there with my husband Jay

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he works on it with me and we've been

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making a video every week for some time

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several years so there's quite a lot of

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stuff there on grammar vocabulary lots

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of unsocial English and politeness

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things as well and and also lots of

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British and American English stuff

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because of course he's American and I'm

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British so we

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we have that going on this well that's

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great and that's one of the things that

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attracted me actually and I know I've

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referred your videos to students because

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that the kind of the banter between the

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British and the American and the accents

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it's really good practice and especially

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for il students right to get that

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exposure I think it's really good

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great Vicki thank you very much

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lovely to see you and stay in touch okay

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it's been a pleasure

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bye-bye no I and that was Vicki from

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simple English videos thank you so much

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to Vicki for coming and being a

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candidate didn't she do a good job not

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bad at all I've done a brief language

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analysis down here in the show notes if

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you want to see more go and visit the

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website IELTS speaking success search

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for Vicki and you can watch the video

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and see more language down there in the

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meantime I recommend you check out

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Vicki's website and YouTube channel

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simple English videos there's a lot of

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stuff there really good to help you

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learn English and build up your fluency

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and confidence big thank you again if

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you like this video do subscribe and

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leave me a comment I look forward to

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seeing you soon

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